Mind squasher

[Ulti19]

I personally would like this spell removed completely. There's no fun having a spell that removes all buffs, basically negating any tactic or any build with luck for me. Making it remove buffs for a certain duration would be even worse in my opinion, everyone will have lv 5 and it will keep your buffs off for endless amounts. The less luck, and chance in the game, the better it will be in the end. If they keep this spell I'd make it cost 500 mana just to make it super rare.
/me waits for ms lovers to rage at me

[Hayir]

Originally Posted by Ulti19

I personally would like this spell removed completely. There's no fun having a spell that removes all buffs, basically negating any tactic or any build with luck for me. Making it remove buffs for a certain duration would be even worse in my opinion, everyone will have lv 5 and it will keep your buffs off for endless amounts. The less luck, and chance in the game, the better it will be in the end. If they keep this spell I'd make it cost 500 mana just to make it super rare.
/me waits for ms lovers to rage at me

I have the exact same opinion about MS.

but whenever i said something like that, only argument people used was knights would be too hard to kill. But isn't that the point of a knight anyways? And i myself got hit for several times for +1.5k as a knight even without MS, thats already more then enough, no?

[Ulti19]

Knights too hard to kill? lol. Well only knights and barbs can use ms. So...
Barbs buffed can hit around 800 still on a buffed knight without ao1. And other knights who lose ms won't be at any disadvantage if it's removed because no one will be able to use it. At least if it's removed or changed it won't be spammed by almost every warrior who sees a knight in army of one which completely makes all the knghts buffs useless along with every other classes buffs being useless. One spell to unbuff every spell makes no sense in an rvr game.
I agree with you.

[pieceofmeat]

I do think MS have a negative impact on warriors gameplay, other classes should be able to stay away most of the time, so not really a huge issue them, just annoying.

The spells I feel have the most negative impact now is DI, Hotw and Beacons. But MS, Winter Stroke, Defensive Stance, Confuse and Darkness are not far behind and perhaps Mana Burn.
I think changes to all these spells are very welcome in the future.

Barbarians shouldnt get spells removed or switched with knights (again), simply because NGD messed up their max damage completely last time around.
If some of the spell mentioned above are “fixed” it will also become far much harder to reach targets and use MS and other spells. Its also not just the spell but whole discipline that depends on MS being useful, so either way it need to be carefully changed or have really good spell to replace it with.

[bois]

Originally Posted by pieceofmeat

The spells I feel have the most negative impact now is DI, Hotw and Beacons. ..

Agreed. This more than anything made MS a must have spell in order to break stacks of buffs. The idea that we have a crapload of extra power points (20) does not help matters much as there is little sacrifice to get these strong spells. MS included. At 50 you had to choose carefully and sacrifice . Now not so. You can have it all.

This broke balance badly as you can have an all around build at 60. This is why I am of the opinion that WarMasters is probably the worst expansion ever done and probably will ever be done (knock on wood). Its failures are so wide and extensive that it would probably need a whole sub forum just to cover it all. Make no mistake , MS abuse is just a side effect of that.

Try skilling at level 60 and leave 20 points reserve. You will see how hard killer combo spells are to get without a lot of sacrifice. MS included.

MS is a problem yes but, the entire balance since WarMasters update is a total disaster and MS abuse just exposes what was already lurking there underneath. In other words MS only becomes a problem (like Dispell) because of a glut of points.


SO yes I would have to agree with Ulti that MS could go but only in the context of the terrible state of balance the game finds itself in at the moment.

Had they just took the time to insulate the levelling system of Warmasters tree (and beyond) from the conventional levelling system with its discipline and power points, they could have avoided so many problems. Actually they could still do it with the system they have. I have a few ideas that might work. Let's see how NGD handles it.

[Tamui]

What if Mind Squasher worked as a stun? Like Distracting Shot? Still I would give it to Knights if it had this type. barbs already got Deaf Roar + it's area.

[pieceofmeat]

Originally Posted by Tamui

What if Mind Squasher worked as a stun? Like Distracting Shot? Still I would give it to Knights if it had this type. barbs already got Deaf Roar + it's area.

That is what the blunt tree used to have a long time ago, it was changed when warriors got their magnification buffs instead.

It used to be 125/145% dmg on all levels and up to 50% stun chance or along those lines.

[Wield_II]

Bump

http://imageshack.us/f/688/0skillmonkey.jpg/

Is this seriously how I'm suposed to enter EVERY fight.
I've had worse but this was a really nice example as you can see I just finished buffing.

Also its not OP enough yet, it cant debuff fulminating.

And yes I mad..

[Raghnalll]

people using a lot MS because the offensive beacons effect is a crappy

sugestions:

-remove dmg from MS
-reset countdown in enemy who received MS
-increase mana cost

and mages still crying abount barb dmg, want defensive stance also? barb don't have many features, yeah in fort war if you a mage and get close at door maybe you will die, keep distance. in open field, barb is a easy target to kill.

[Tigerious]

Originally Posted by Donatoo

Bump

http://imageshack.us/f/688/0skillmonkey.jpg/

Is this seriously how I'm suposed to enter EVERY fight.
I've had worse but this was a really nice example as you can see I just finished buffing.

Also its not OP enough yet, it cant debuff fulminating.

And yes I mad..

No wonder why some people like you get ms spam, you preselect and perso target someone all the time. This is your fault.