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View Poll Results: Account-bound gear for transferred characters, Haven to Ra. How do you feel about it?
I'm okay with an account-bound restriction on transfer. 35 47.95%
I'm okay with an account-bound restriction, except I'd like to sell gear to merchants. 4 5.48%
I'd be okay with it if we make the restriction only for epic-level gear and above. 2 2.74%
I'd be okay with it if we make the restriction only for boss gear. 13 17.81%
I've already got toons on Ra, so I don't care about restrictions on gear after transfer. 10 13.70%
Hell, no! If NGD does this, I'm never playing this game again. 9 12.33%
No. I will not transfer my character under those conditions. 19 26.03%
I don't care what NGD does. I left this game a long time ago and I'm never coming back. 3 4.11%
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:56 PM   #1
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Default Poll: opinions on the transfer idea.

Adrian indicated in a prior post that NGD is considering allowing character transfers from Haven to RA. However, if this happens, gear may become account-bound.

Opinions have been posted, and some people are very angry about the whole thing.

So, I'm making a poll to ask the question.

No doubt some people will get their knickers in a knot just for posting the question. Unlax and be civil.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:25 PM   #2
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Why is this even considered necessary?
When Nemon was merged to Haven it was not even mentioned.

Pretty sure this idea was created only to get back at some players that someone is holding grudge against lol
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:14 PM   #3
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If we put aside the concern that items could be sold for money, are there any reasons to bind any items?
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:49 PM   #4
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I'd like if we can sell those items to merchants or put them in auction house.

But if not possible, merge anyway and bound all my shit.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:17 PM   #5
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Epic rings/dragon amulets should be the only things account bounded if the transfer is ever done.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:50 PM   #6
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Epic rings/dragon amulets should be the only things account bounded if the transfer is ever done.
...butButBUT, if so, ALL such items on ALL servers should henceforth be account-bound. Fair's fair. What affects one rightfully should affect all. As is, the vote tally so far clearly indicates that these unrealistic restrictions are unacceptable to most. In my opinion, rightly so. There's no real need; if ppl $ell or trade or gift their gears, what of it? It's THEIR stuff, isn't it?

As Eizaix rightly points out, this has never once been a (mentioned) consideration before now: not for Tyr/Horus, not for Niflheim/Muspell, not for Piranha/Ra, not for Raven/Horus, not for Haven/Nemon, not mentioned even once in almost a 1/2 dozen mergers over almost a dozen years, so why THIS time? What's so entirely different, special, or unique here? Anything?

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Old 10-12-2018, 11:50 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=Lebeau;1897273]...butButBUT, if so, ALL such items on ALL servers should...

The sheer amount of accounts and items is most likely the main problem. Haven is the churchyard of almost all those old servers and the number of accounts and items must be in the magnitude of thousands and millions...
Maybe it's easy to merge the databases and maybe it's not.

Also if you happen to sit on an old clan bank from some of the grand clans you could be selling gears for years and the same goes for those who been milking the bosses at haven. (Less honest people may be tempted to sell accounts with gear as well) This may hurt RA revenue.

And finally, there are accounts with toons in different realms present in the mess that is Haven.

It's understandable that NGD has second thoughts about this, especially since most active Haven player already has new toons in Ra.

The transfer may be a lot of work for very little benefit from one point of view.
On the other hand, it's pretty unfair that players that supported the game for years now are stuck in a dead server.

Even if it hurts to let all gear be locked I would pay that price to be able to play my old toons in something that is not "single player mode".

I am pretty sure that transfers if they happen, will be at your request, no one will likely be forced to move and get their stuff locked.
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Old 10-13-2018, 05:45 AM   #8
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I understand that some might be willing to give up everything they have (clearly the ones who are financially capable to just BOX an entirely new sets of gear if needed), but cmon

This theory of millions of accounts and items sitting in Haven is quite exaggerated.
Would make sense if only the ''active'' accounts would be transferred if it ever even happens. Its still just a suggestion.
Adrian pointed out that Haven never even reached close the numbers that Ra has even at the moment after many have ave quite etc from it too. So even with all the long dead and not used accounts from other merges that have took place, we could not effect Ra in any way. You might think some of us ''have hoarded a lot of gear'' that will make Ra bankrupt or something but you clearly have not comprehension of the size of Ra commerce then.
It cant effect Ra. Please stop making unnecessary theories. Its not helping. Thanks
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It cant effect Ra. Please stop making unnecessary theories. Its not helping. Thanks
Why, then, is Adrian saying they may need to bound items?

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I understand that some might be willing to give up everything they have (clearly the ones who are financially capable to just BOX an entirely new sets of gear if needed)
>Please stop making unnecessary theories. Its not helping. Thanks
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...butButBUT, if so, ALL such items on ALL servers should henceforth be account-bound. Fair's fair. ...
It's THEIR stuff, isn't it?
Exactly, it isn't THEIR stuff. Did you ever bother reading license agreement?
You can't argument with that, Mr. 143IQ.
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That being said, nothing you obtained in game is your posession, what NGD provides you is rather a service. And they can change it, anytime.
Of course if NGD decides to lock Haven player inventories, the service provided to Haven players wouldn't be the same as to RA players.

But oh, Haven players get shit service on Haven already, so transferring to RA even with some restrictions would be actually a huge improvement.
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