Marksman supremacy - Page 4

71175 · 03-26-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

Well then let me give you an example..
The marksman has supreme range, with all the slows and bla bla we heard/read it already

So the only way to stop the marks is either with another marks who can make sure
their spells hit and that they are not freezed/stunned instead
or
you get a hunter who goes into camo and gets near that marks while others
fall back a little but play good bait
and are ready to rush when the hunter comes out of camo and stuns the nasty marks

Its just a strategie to take out a marks the easy way.. just need a hunter and one other player
its just that most people only think in a little box, the one everyone uses now..
no strategie.. just run and hope you can reach your enemy

This is what i call clever but cowardish play. And main, this "strategy" is mainly useful at zerging. period.

Awrath · 03-26-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

Well then let me give you an example..
The marksman has supreme range, with all the slows and bla bla we heard/read it already

So the only way to stop the marks is either with another marks who can make sure
their spells hit and that they are not freezed/stunned instead
or
you get a hunter who goes into camo and gets near that marks while others
fall back a little but play good bait
and are ready to rush when the hunter comes out of camo and stuns the nasty marks

Its just a strategie to take out a marks the easy way.. just need a hunter and one other player
its just that most people only think in a little box, the one everyone uses now..
no strategie.. just run and hope you can reach your enemy

Again, you fail to explain how the marksman's range makes camo and dist shot more useful than any other situation -_-. In case you are not aware, this strategy will still work if bows were to be reverted to range 30. Or am I missing something here?

Tamui · 03-26-2012, 07:07 PM

Marksman are best at long range AND short range. IMO, Hunter should be very good at short range...short range meaning SB range, fast, medium dealing dmg. the problem is, the range for hunter. He needs to get in range AND stay out of barbs harm's way.

Rising_Cold · 03-28-2012, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Awrath

Again, you fail to explain how the marksman's range makes camo and dist shot more useful than any other situation -_-. In case you are not aware, this strategy will still work if bows were to be reverted to range 30. Or am I missing something here?

Ah tnx for pointing out how much I fail -.-

If bows were reduced to range 30 the distance is shorter-> the % added still the same but its less in total
(just saying this as its clear some cant put one and two together..)
Then it wont be so hard for other classes to get into range.
No use for this strategie unless your playing with players all below 40

It is true that marks have supreme range and all, but isnt that supposed to be
its main trait,
they hardly have defence even a knight can take them out with crappy damage
(let alone a barb with 1-3k hits)

71175 · 03-28-2012, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

It is true that marks have supreme range and all, but isnt that supposed to be
its main trait,
they hardly have defence even a knight can take them out with crappy damage
(let alone a barb with 1-3k hits)

Wha? marksman is second tankiest class after knight in game.

_Kharbon_ · 03-28-2012, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

It is true that marks have supreme range and all, but isnt that supposed to be
its main trait,
they hardly have defence even a knight can take them out with crappy damage
(let alone a barb with 1-3k hits)

As I see, your marksman is lvl 38. That's a bit low for warzone. Marksman, who care to buff a bit before they allow the barb to get close, usually don't get 3k hits.

Marksman do have the second or third best armor, right after knights and barbs.

Warlocks are much worse off...

Rising_Cold · 03-28-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by _Kharbon_

Marksman, who care to buff a bit before they allow the barb to get close, usually don't get 3k hits.

Marksman do have the second or third best armor, right after knights and barbs.

Warlocks are much worse off...

Still even without the 3k hit barbs should have no problem when they reach the marks
And yh the marks has to be buffed up, my friend has a lv 60 marks he got hit by 900 normal
while unbuffed, by a hunter. Ofcourse there is a huge difference buffed/unbuffed
thats with every class.

{and yes locks have a defence problem, then again they have major damage and good areas too
if you want to complain complain about hunters

}

Rising_Cold · 03-28-2012, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 71175

Wha? marksman is second tankiest class after knight in game.

Then my knight just owns, but you know that

71175 · 03-28-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

Then my knight just owns, but you know that

Well, last time i got hit over 1k was when i was unbuffed

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Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

And yh the marks has to be buffed up, my friend has a lv 60 marks he got hit by 900 normal
while unbuffed, by a hunter. Ofcourse there is a huge difference buffed/unbuffed
thats with every class.

Wait, didn't it happen to be jesus or VV

? they have OP gears. And as u said: unbuffed.

Awrath · 03-28-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

If bows were reduced to range 30 the distance is shorter-> the % added still the same but its less in total
(just saying this as its clear some cant put one and two together..)
Then it wont be so hard for other classes to get into range.
No use for this strategie unless your playing with players all below 40

Thanks for the maths lesson as to how percentage works. So you prefer a marksman to remain unreachable, good suggestions for balance right there. And I still fail to see how your aforementioned tactic is any less effective while a marksman has less range.

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Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

they hardly have defence even a knight can take them out with crappy damage
(let alone a barb with 1-3k hits)

We play the same game?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

Still even without the 3k hit barbs should have no problem when they reach the marks

Yes, when they do. At present this is never.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

And yh the marks has to be buffed up, my friend has a lv 60 marks he got hit by 900 normal
while unbuffed, by a hunter.
Ofcourse there is a huge difference buffed/unbuffed
thats with every class.

What? Of course when we talk about defence in the game we talk about a buffed character. In most cases. This case is one of them.

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Originally Posted by Rising_Cold

{and yes locks have a defence problem, then again they have major damage and good areas too
if you want to complain complain about hunters

}

Yes locks have poor defence, but major damage? Marks has way more DPS and this is from 50+ metres away.